http://columbus1.ath.cx/index.php?news=5785
Bob wrote on columbuzz:
"I stand by, and I can prove, EVERY single word that I have written as fact about these four."
Lie. Please cite the laws that you claim Fred Barkes has broken.
"And, if need be, I will prove them, in a court of law. A majority of what you sent to me is from a website set up to tear apart what I say on Columbuzz.net. A great majority of what it says is in fact libelous toward myself. But of course they hide behind phony names."
What exactly is libelous against Bob here? I've deleted the obvious ones and have offered many times to consider deleting any others that I've missed.
"What you have presented to me as evidence of ‘libel’ is a collection of my opinions, facts backed up with evidence and witnesses willing to testify to those facts, questions that I have set out for people in our community, and a whole bunch of crap from a website that allows people to make posts while falsely using my name."
So Bob, none of the posts here with your name are yours?
So, Mr. Lantz, if you wish to sort through to see what part is my opinion, what parts are actual accusations or supposed false statements, decide and PROVE what I posted on the other website, and then take this action to court, I’m all for it.
I hope that when Bob is on the stand in court, he lies about his comments here. Then they can charge him with perjury too. And I thought Bob was proud of his posts and comments. Now he's not? What a weasel.
"Like I said, I can prove what I have stated as fact."
Lie.
"I am entitled to my opinion of a public official that is doing what I consider inferior work."
You claim he's a criminal, which is libel without proof.
"I can’t be held responsible for what someone else posts using my name."
So are you saying that all of the posts here with your name are not yours?
"Columbuzz.net is a website that allows opinions from everyone. I’m not responsible for what others say."
Lie. Columbuzz does not allow opinions from everyone.
"If the Barkes’ and the Ferrenburgs wish to further this legal action, I say go for it."
I hope they do.
"The circus that would follow would be a welcome bunch of entertainment for the good folks of this area. It might also be a good way to let the people of Columbus Township finally see what I have been telling them for the past year or so."
No, it's a good way to let the people of Columbus Township see how delusional you are.
"In the meantime, you should continue to monitor Columbuzz.net because I don’t intend to change how I do ANYTHING."
Good. That just gives the lawyers more material to work with. If Bob is sued, I predict that he will use columbuzz to beg for donations to his defense fund. I'm sure the bots will contribute a few bucks.
43 comments:
Time for Bob Freeman to destroy his newly replaced hard-drive YET AGAIN.
LOLOLOLOL
Some things should remain private.
Who would post...
on the Internet for all to see...
a personal letter...
to their self...
from an attorney...
of intent to sue?
ANSWER: A Narcissistic Egomaniac.
Bob Freeman is truly one dumb sonofabitch.
Many of the "Real Nasty" comments made on Columbuzz, by Buffoon Bob, were made long before this Blog was created, Prior to January 2010.
http://tiny.cc/m8kb3
"I stand by, and I can prove, EVERY single word that I have written as fact about these four."
Okay, bigmouth...
...show the proof.
Still waiting.
Anonymous said...
Some things should remain private.
_____________________________________
Well, whaddya expect from a guy who told specifics of the sexual dysfunction in his own family?
Bob is as stupid as they come.
I will say that if Bob can indeed back up his claims, then let him go for it.
As far as libel goes, this site has been pretty libellous. Bob the Weasel is a pretty poor choice of words unless you say how he is like a weasel. You may have deleted the libel from some of the past posts, but it was still libel that this site produced.
just trying to be fair in all of this.
I have seen some posts on this site with Bob's name, but I do not think that it is really him. Considering this site is pretty much just an anti-Bob Freeman site (which might in and of itself be a form of slander or libel) it would not suprise me that someone would post very libellous things under the name of the guy all of you hate so much.
I am not saying that that's what happened, I am just saying that it is reasonable to think so.
"As far as libel goes, this site has been pretty libellous. Bob the Weasel is a pretty poor choice of words unless you say how he is like a weasel. You may have deleted the libel from some of the past posts, but it was still libel that this site produced."
I could spend hours writing about how Bob is like a weasel. And please provide current examples of libel on my blog. The only criminal behavior I've personally accused Bob of is the odometer tampering deal, which he admits to.
"just trying to be fair in all of this."
Sorry, Phil, I don't see you as fair. In my opinion, you favor Bob.
"I have seen some posts on this site with Bob's name, but I do not think that it is really him. Considering this site is pretty much just an anti-Bob Freeman site (which might in and of itself be a form of slander or libel) it would not suprise me that someone would post very libellous things under the name of the guy all of you hate so much."
Actually this site is an anti-columbuzz site. So you're saying that any site that is dedicated to criticizing someone for their words could be considered libel? That's a stretch. Plus Bob has already admitted to writing some of the most disturbing comments himself.
Actually Phil, I suspect that people will pay no more attention to your sugar coated BS and lectures on this blog than they do on the Buzzards Site or The Republic.
I don't remember seeing any comments against Barkes, or the Ferrenburgs, under Bob's name, that Bob denied were his.
Although NOW he will probably deny them all.
Most of it is found in comments, Dude.
In this thread
"Buffoon Bob" by Anonymous
"Bob Freeman is truly one dumb sonofabitch" by Anonymous
"Bob is as stupid as they come." by Portnoy
This is representative of what I find on other posts here too.
If this is an Anti-Columbuzz site, then why do you attack Bob so much? I also do not really think that attacking the commenters is really professional.
To criticize someone's words is one thing, but to call them a "sonofabitch" is definitely slander and libel.
I would not say I favor Bob. I defend him when he is right, but I criticize his remarks when I believe he is wrong. I have done so numerous times on this site, and others where similar topics of the Barkes Freeman election were brought up.
Is Phil as smart as Bob ? Yep, I believe so, just about.
"If this is an Anti-Columbuzz site, then why do you attack Bob so much?"
Because Bob is columbuzz, with his sidekicks Jeremy and Herman.
"To criticize someone's words is one thing, but to call them a "sonofabitch" is definitely slander and libel."
Phil, I don't think you understand the definition of libel. Insulting someone is not libel.
Ed, how do you meant that?
Dude, legally, libel, slander, vilification, and calumny all falls under the umbrella of defamation. Proof being the only way not to be guilty.
Bob does commit libel and slander. So does this site. I would like to see this site take the high road and be better than Bob. I appreciate this site's work and analysis and cross examination of Columbuzz, but let's do it in a manner that is better than Columbuzz quality.
Don't forget, columbuzz tries to pass itself off as journalism. To paraphrase Jeremy, competition for the Republic. This site is unabashed as to its aims.
While they may think it helps their 1st Amendment Rights, it actually holds Bob and Columbuzz to a different standard. If Bob has said things with reckless disregard for the truth (check), and reported that information as truth (check) and done so with malice (check, CHECK!) he might want to look into new hard drives (again).
Phil, you need to read up on the subject:
http://www.medialaw.org/Template.cfm?Section=Libel_FAQs
http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4565975_libel-get-determined.html
"Bob does commit libel and slander. So does this site. I would like to see this site take the high road and be better than Bob. I appreciate this site's work and analysis and cross examination of Columbuzz, but let's do it in a manner that is better than Columbuzz quality."
You run your site your way, I'll run mine my way.
I was just making a suggestion as to how this site can gain credibility over Bob's. So far, it's just as bad, as far as the personal attacking goes.
Again, I still enjoy the analysis this site brings. Cheers!
"I was just making a suggestion as to how this site can gain credibility over Bob's."
This site already has more credibility over Bob's, since Bob's has zero credibility.
"So far, it's just as bad, as far as the personal attacking goes."
Maybe so, but I made a decision from the beginning to not censor like Bob does.
In what way does Bob censor that you object to?
Bob deletes anything he suspects comes from Mercman, no matter what it says.
ah. Gotchya. Now I wouldn't know because I obviously never see mercman's statements. From what I have seen on previous comments here, they are pretty bad, but that's here, not there.
I censor by content not author. I allow people, not matter who it is, to speak if they have something to say, but not if it's just to randomly and unwarrantedly attack someone or to claim that someone belongs to one of these silly wannabe soldier militias and then go on to produce information that is not even related to try and prove that it's the truth.
Yeah, I catch some libel on my site from time to time.
Bob the Liar said this:
"It's no(t) my website. I am very involved but it belongs to other people."
Here is evidence contrary to what Bob says, and proof that he is a liar:
Domain Name: COLUMBUZZ.NET
Registrant:
Robert Freeman
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain servers in listed order:
NS67.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS68.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
For complete domain details go to:
http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?
Bob wrote on columbuzz:
"I appreciate it Phil. We try to delete all that stuff. We delete quite a bit but most of that is idiots calling me names and saying outrageous nonsense."
Bob lies again. Multiple times I've offered to provide Bob a list of libelous statements on columbuzz and was ignored.
Well, I am inclined to believe you since you allowed me to post my stuff. Dude is a very reasonable guy.
I still have the list and the links to the comments, assuming they haven't been deleted yet.
Registrant:
Robert Freeman
Lilac Ct
Columbus, Indiana 47203
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: COLUMBUZZ.NET
Created on: 04-Sep-09
Expires on: 04-Sep-12
Last Updated on: 25-Jan-11
Administrative Contact:
Freeman, Robert submit@columbuzz.net
Lilac Ct
Columbus, Indiana 47203
United States
+1.8125069821
Technical Contact:
Freeman, Robert submit@columbuzz.net
Lilac Ct
Columbus, Indiana 47203
United States
+1.8125069821
Bob Freeman quote:
"And 'decist' instead of 'desist?'
That might explain why they took the case when no attorney in Columbus would."
Bob Freeman the Hypocrite quote:
"People reported a problem. We annonced that problem here on Columbuzz.net.
People reported this to us without anyone nowing who they are."
Phil Swaim is opposed to Bob? I am confused...
You might only be confused because you believe that just because Bob aggregates my posts in with other sources he aggregates that I am deeply associated with him. He asked me for content (as have other organizations) and I allowed him to repost my content. Along with other aggregations, my posts seem to give his site credibility. It's only when Bob spews his personal attacks, hearsay, and libel (as he did in the election) that his site's credibility is destroyed.
I'm only supportive of Bob on a few points. A major one is not being afraid to post something from the SBOA about an elected official, but I definitely could do without the allegations of wives being whores and wives showing up at funeral homes and making a show of things. That's they kind of stuff that I do not like to see in reporting.
If you have ever read my material on my site, you would know that I present facts and my opinions and questions about the facts and conclusions that might be drawn from them.
By the way, not to change the subject too much, what political ideology are you guys? Party doesn't matter IMO, but what party are some of you, if that's not being too personal. Just curious. Also, what political affiliation and ideology do you think I am?
Phil Swaim said...
"I have seen some posts on this site with Bob's name, but I do not think that it is really him."
I know for a fact that just because it has a person's name doesn't mean it came from the real person. I guarantee you more than half the post with Bob's name on them aren't his comments. I know my husbands name is used to post and he has never been to this site so how could he post comments . It started out "Local Tax payer" then went to "Danny Palmer" my ,husbands name, because they where mad at me for commenting on columbuzz they found out my husbands name and now use it on a regular basis. I think it is funny because anyone who knows my husband knows he is not leaving comments on here. In my opinion you are a bunch of cowards hiding behind fake name. I think you don't have lives since you are always on here. You spend a lot of time stalking a lot of people. I understand that you have a problem with Bob but you go way over board. I will be busy so any stupid comments you make about this I won't see, so have fun wasting you lives on here, while I go live my life in the real world with real people.
Columbuzz is the "real world" Misty?
"I guarantee you more than half the post with Bob's name on them aren't his comments."
Misty, as usual, you don't have a clue. I know for a fact that many of the comments with Bob's name are his. The comments from Dec. 5 are definitely his.
"In my opinion you are a bunch of cowards hiding behind fake name"
Writes "Gina".
"I think you don't have lives since you are always on here."
Writes the person commenting at 2 in the morning.
"You spend a lot of time stalking a lot of people."
I don't stalk anyone.
"I understand that you have a problem with Bob but you go way over board."
And Bob doesn't?
Misty, as Dude showed, you were anonymous until you were outed. Is it any wonder why a person would want to be anonymous with all the sickos out there? I have chosen to be anonymous way before this site. I have been a victim of threats on another site. We have seen behavior on both sides when people knew identities. Bob, has put what he believes is Merc's info out there and told people what to do. I don't need that sort of aggravation or worse.
I don't like people posting as "Bob", "Danny Palmer" etc. I think it discredits the site unfortunately and then people don't know which words are truly Bob's. This also gives him rope to say he didn't make comments that he did. I do understand I guess the appeal to who is doing it.
I also don't like Bob editing people's posts changing the words to say something else. This discredits HIS site and makes one question which words are truly the poster's.
So, there is blame enough to go around. You act like it is a utopia over there. Yeah, right.
"I don't like people posting as "Bob", "Danny Palmer" etc. I think it discredits the site unfortunately and then people don't know which words are truly Bob's."
I don't like it either, but, unfortunately, there's no way around the problem, except to not allow any comments at all.
"This also gives him rope to say he didn't make comments that he did."
Bob has to be very careful doing this, especially if he denies it under oath.
" I guarantee you more than half the post with Bob's name on them aren't his comments."
Bob can't 'guarantee' that, and you DEFINITELY CANNOT guarantee that.
A court order to an Internet Service Provider will prove who said what.
Anyone who gets caught up into what they eventually categorize as a cult, is not someone who possesses the ability to think with any lucidity.
Also, anyone using their real name on forums such as this, is a fool.
The reasons are obvious for most intelligent persons.
It stands to reason that the comments being used as a basis for a law suit against Bob Freeman, are comments that Bob has already admitted to being made by himself.
Fake comments by Bob Imposters are not in question regarding any legal action.
I got kicked out of the cult after 5 months because I was thinking for myself and they didn't like it. I actually used a fake name in the beginning to protect other people's identity, not my own. I was also up at 2 am because I worked a 16 hour shift as I often do. I have actually been working 60-70 hours a week in the real world and taking care of my family I haven't had much time for columbuzz or anything else. So can my husband get a court order and expose the person using his name on this site?
PHIL SWAIM SAID:
He asked me for content (as have other organizations) and I allowed him to repost my content. Along with other aggregations, my posts seem to give his site credibility. It's only when Bob spews his personal attacks, hearsay, and libel (as he did in the election) that his site's credibility is destroyed.
AND YOUR CREDIBILITY IS DESTROYED AS WELL PHIL. WHY DO YOU THINK OTHERS HAVE DEMANDED BOB REMOVE THEIR CONTENT FROM HIS FLEDGLING WEB-SITE? CHANNEL 8, THE REPUBLIC AND OTHERS.
AFFILIATING WITH BOB, LENDING ANY CREDENCE WHATSOEVER TO HIS TRASH IS NOT HELPING YOUR TEA-PARTY CAUSE!
"I actually used a fake name in the beginning to protect other people's identity, not my own."
Then I would suggest that you not criticize others for using fake names because we all have our reasons. When you do, you come across as a hypocrite.
"I was also up at 2 am because I worked a 16 hour shift as I often do. I have actually been working 60-70 hours a week in the real world and taking care of my family I haven't had much time for columbuzz or anything else."
I would also suggest that you don't accuse me and/or others of not having a life just because you work so many hours. It's not my fault you have little to no free time. And just because I spend some of my free time on my blog doesn't mean that's all I do.
"So can my husband get a court order and expose the person using his name on this site?"
I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt it, unless the person has libeled your husband (with malice). Then you would have to sue and in the process his identity might be exposed. It's probably not worth the trouble.
"So can my husband get a court order and expose the person using his name on this site?"
This thread is about Bob the Weasel, not about your husband.
Is your husband the focus of a current law suit?
Are you Lucy?
Because you don't seem to understand what's going on and you sound pretty scatter-brained.
(see my comment above about lucid cognitive ability)
You said, Misty, that you wouldn't see any comments after your own.
What happened to your 'real' world of 'real' people?
Misty said...
"I got kicked out of the cult after 5 months because I was thinking for myself and they didn't like it."
So for 5 months you were not thinking for yourself?
That doesn't surprise me at all.
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