After reading it, it made me wonder if Columbuzz is just a cult with Bob as the leader (allegedly like Tim Miracle). Take a look at this cult checklist: http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm
- The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law. CHECK
- Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. CHECK
- The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel. CHECK
- The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members. CHECK
- The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society. CHECK
- The leader is not accountable to any authorities. CHECK
- The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. CHECK
- The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. CHECK
- The group is preoccupied with making money. CHECK
Here are the others on the list that may be true about columbuzz, but I can't say for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they were true.
- Mind-altering practices are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
- The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
- Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
- Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
- Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
- The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.
75 comments:
Bob is very much like a cult. He demands obedience because if you don't agree with him, you are derided and deleted.
Another though today along the same lines. On the subject of freedom of speech, WikiLeaks is undergoing massive DOS attacks (probably from the United States Government) which has forced them onto Europeon servers.
Bob and his buddy President Obama are very much about controlling the freedom of speech, right Bob?
Bob and his "followers" are grossly anti-Christian so this type of stuff appeals to them.
actually, bob enjoys bashing women and obama, so i really doubt he likes obama - here are some examples of things he has for sale thru his site:
http://www.zazzle.com/obama_business_cards_barack_obama_born_in_kenya-240358794337139096
http://www.zazzle.com/obamas_hiring_plan_process_bumper_sticker-128292568085307630
http://www.zazzle.com/women_problems_tshirt-235186795100538816
http://www.zazzle.com/women_problems_time_money_looking_bumper_sticker-128359801164390584
I am Gina on this story and am very much a Christian!! I brought this to his attention because what Tim Miracle and his cult is doing is wrong. People have been and continue to be hurt financially, spiritually, emotionally, physically, and mentally by Milestone. I don't find this subject to be anything to joke about. I have seen families ripped apart because or Tim Miracle, families loose there homes giving him money. People are being hurt by him and you are making jokes. You should all really go join his congregation looks like you would fit right in. After being kicked out of Milestone I did lots of research about cults and it is scary how well they fit the profile. I just don't find you making fun of this story right at all but I didn't expect anything less. I am sure half of you are buddies with the Miracles boys.
Gina, who here is defending Tim Miracle and his church? I have no idea if his church is a cult, which is why I said "allegedly like Tim Miracle". I don't know Tim and I'm not a member of his church (it would be a LONG drive for me to attend church at Milestone). And my post is not a joke. Columbuzz is like a cult in many ways.
i agree with dude, i am seeing how this post is making fun of the people that have been hurt or allegedly hurt by the Miracle brothers. the only reason i say allegedly is i have not done enough research to say that is the case all the time. i see this post pointing out a lot of similarities between the two groups, but not at all making fun of anyone that has been hurt by the 'church' and their following. if half of the things that have been stated of the 'church' i find it revolting. please note, i am not doubting you in any way shape or form. i just prefer to have more information before making a decision or stance, unlike some places that do it just on a bit of hearsay. the damage that cults can do is quite disturbing, and sadly i have seen how they can rip families apart.
The video link posted in the cult story on columbuzz is a comedy spoof of an Enrique Iglesias song. I think someone posted the wrong link.
I suggest to Gina that she join The Church of Bob for love, concern, and protection from people like Miracle, and people such as the ones who comment against Bob, here on this Blog.
Though it appears she has already joined.
@ Gina, re-read the posts here. We are not "taking on" the issue of Timmy Miracles church. The issue is Bob Freeman and if you honestly think that idiot will help with with your issues you are sadly mistaken. Bob and the jerks at Columscum have NO journalistic credibility whatsoever. They are the National Inquirer of Columbus.
If you are really concerned for the people at the Miracle's church, talk to CPD and/or THE REPUBLIC. Feeding stuff like this to Bob doe NOTHING to further your cause it only feeds his over inflated ego.
Good luck in your quest for the truth. You have already made one misstep, please don't make another.
Gina putting your "story" about Milestone on Columbuzz makes it a joke. Can you understand that? I am sure you feel genuine about this issue and are expressing real concern. Bob will use it to further his own personal agenda of the moment, whatever that may be, with no real impact on helping you.
We (collectively) I do not feel are making fun of your issue. I am sure it is not a joke. Your choice of giving this information to an idiot like Bob Freeman is sad.
By the way Bob, I thought you SIGNED ALL YOUR ARTICLES, LIAR!
i think it is funny that any woman would go to that site for help with the kind of shirts offered for sale there bashing women. kinda ironic...
Good point Chris. Anyone who would go to Bob Freeman for help needs to have there head examined.
OMG BREAKING NEWS:
BOOB FREEMAN TAKES ON A CULT!!!
ROFLMFAO
Maybe she should ask Bob what faith he is. I bet she would Sh*t herself
Too bad she went to Columbuzz.
Because of Columbuzz's/Bob Freeman's reputation, nobody will touch the issue now. It has been tainted.
Advice for anyone looking for a church or religion to be a part of >
There is nothing wrong with being a follower as long as you keep an open mind, retain free will, and pay attention.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see when a church is not a church.
"It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see when a church is not a church."
It does when you are Bob Freeman. You can tell from reading his "expertise" on the subject of Christianity and religion that he is clueless. He is clueless probably because his superior intellect cannot wrap his pea-brain around faith or God.
Could Bob Freeman, outstanding, law-abiding citizen be violating the law?
Judge for yourself:
odometer device
i see nothing wrong with not believing in god, i have never thought bob was an idiot for that part, nor will i. why? simple - there are several reasons, and i get a chuckle out of 'christians' who automatically assume a person is bad because they are of a different faith or belief structure, or non believers. i believe each person is entitled to what ever belief they may have or may not have, and thinking someone is wrong for not having the same belief structure is as petty as the stance that bob takes on most of his rants and skewed views.
Chris, I am not arguing about religion or Christianity except in the context as they have been presented in Bob's "public opinions" and on Columbuzz. Whether you and I agree or not, it is biblically true that Bob is "damned" if he denies Christ.
Again, it's not an attack on what someone believes. Anyone can choose there path but you cannot deny Christ and not be "damned" according to the bible.
Anonymous said...
Could Bob Freeman, outstanding, law-abiding citizen be violating the law?
Judge for yourself:
odometer device
December 3, 2010 7:28 PM
Do you think Boob is paying the State of Indiana there sales tax he will need to pay them when they find out
Blowing the Whistle on Bob Freeman Again:
What is Seal-Tite Roofing?
Why is it listed at the address of a house and property owned by Bob Freeman with Bob's phone number?
Why is this "business" in a residential area?
Is this a zoning issue?
Is this a phantom business for tax purposes?
Does the IRS know about it?
Is Bob Freeman a roofing contractor?
Someone should check. Maybe Columbuzzs crack detectives could launch an investigation.
I think tampering with vehicle odometers and-or providing people with such devices is against Indiana State law.
Bob should be investigated.
Cult Leader Charged With Tax Fraud and Transportation Code Violations
Funny how Bob Freeman likes to talk so much but never ever mentioned Seal Tite Roofing or Odometer Stopping devices.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Clearly no Photoshop work done to frame him......as he will claim.
The websites are real, Google them.
The IRS deals with FACTS and PROOF.
Maybe they should pay our local Shelby Materials Janitor a visit.
This needs to be referred to the Indiana State Police. They don't play!
Maybe Jeremy can get out of Bob's pants for five minutes to check this out.
The link to the comedy spoof was no mistake it was played at church for a sermon. The two men in it are members of Milestone. As a Christian it is not my job to judge what Bob believes that is between him and God. Do you really think the Republic cares about this issue, I doubt it. There is also a sheriff deputy who is a member of the church so everything that has been turned in has been covered up by him. I put together that story so not Bob so why are you calling him a liar? I put the story on columbuzz because a lot of people from Columbus do look at the page. You saying people who go to columbuzz.net need there head checked is kind of funny since you seem to stalk it. If trying to protect other people from getting hurt by the Miracle cults is wrong and makes me stupid well than I guess I am. I just don't get why you have to attack everything that gets posted since not everything is done by Bob, that is my story!! Thanks Gina
Maybe Miracles church is NOT a cult. Some Columbuzz BOB-O-BOT says "There is also a sheriff deputy who is a member of the church so everything that has been turned in has been covered up by him."
What has been covered up exactly?
YOU PEOPLE ON COLUMSCUM THRIVE ON THIS CRAP. TOTAL HERE-SAY, UNPROVED NONSENSE.
WOW: MORE BREAKING NEWS FROM THE BOB-O-BOTS ON COLUMSCUM
BOTH MIRACLES ARE CULT LEADERS!
"If trying to protect other people from getting hurt by the Miracle cults is wrong and makes me stupid well than I guess I am."
Do you idiots even know what a cult is?
Gina wote:
"The link to the comedy spoof was no mistake it was played at church for a sermon. "
OK, I will admit that's a little strange.
"I put together that story so not Bob so why are you calling him a liar?"
Because Bob is a proven liar, but I'm not calling you a liar at all. What you say may be entirely true. But posting your story on columbuzz does not give it any credibility. I can understand though if you felt like it was your only choice.
Because Gina, Bob Freeman is poison. He brings as much discredit to Columbscum as he did to local politics. Bob Freeman is probably as bad or worse than the Miracles could ever hope to be.
Our issues are not about you Gina or the Miracles. Our issues are with anything that has to do with Bob Freeman. The issue is ANYTHING that has his name attached to it. F-L-A-K-E-Y describes Bob Freeman and by association Columbuzzzzzzzzzzzz
More Proof Boob is a Dumb ass (not that we needed any)
Tom on 03 December, 2010 10:00:10
Hey Bob, do you have any more of those devices that lets you turn your odometer on and off? I really need one ASAP. Thanks.
Bob Freeman on 03 December, 2010 10:04:26
No Tom, those are illegal. A buddy made a couple and they worked great. It actually was a switch on a fuse.
Turn the fuse off and the device it protected shut off, even the odometer.
The rest of the answer:
"But before any were sold, we found out it is illegal to sell anything that messes with the odometer. So the two or three that were made were thrown away and none were ever sold.
I hope that answers your question."
"But before any were sold, we found out it is illegal to sell anything that messes with the odometer."
DUH!
"I'm sorry Dude, I promised myself I was going to quit calling this dumb-f*** names but I cannot help it."
I don't mind you calling him names. I would just prefer that everyone try to avoid the F-bomb.
I will do my very best Dude!
Hey Dude, Bob either thinks we are all stupid and his superior intellect is much greater than ours OR he is completely delusional on scale we do not fully comprehend. Of course, there is always the very real possibility that yes, he is that damn dumb.
I suspect the delusions of his superior intellect is closer to the truth.
Consider this for a minute. It is just as frightening a reality that there are people who consider Bob the "go to person" for "whistle blowing." The only thing Bob is got at whistling is (insert you own thought, I promised Dude I would try to clean my language up).
The people who put there trust in ANY Bob Freeman enterprise, be it Columbuzzzzzzzzzzz, Odometers, Kiddie Porn or whatever are just a big a losers as he is.
"A buddy made a couple and they worked great."
So does this mean that Bob actually tested the device on one of his vehicles? If so, I hope he hasn't sold the vehicle he tested it on, since that would be fraud.
Dude (NOT Jeff Barkes) said...
"Only a complete dumb-ass like Bob would expect us to believe that he did not know that messing with an odometer is illegal."
This reminds me of a memorable quote from the movie Ruthless People: "This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth. Perhaps we should shoot him."
December 3, 2010 11:56 PM
ABSOLUTELY!
Bob, the Cult Leader is UNSUCCESSFULLY (big surprise) trying to cover his ass over the illegal devices he advertises for sale.
Here is a link to the ad and a link to the screenshot in case Bob tries to alter the evidence.
AD >
http://garagesalehomepage.com/ItemsDetail.php?ItemNum=1869&GSIName=SHUT+OFF+YOUR+ODOMETER+WHENEVER+YOU+LIKE%21
SCREENSHOT >
http://oi56.tinypic.com/2wbw7if.jpg
Here is what Bob published on Columbuzz....
" A BUDDY MADE a COUPLE and they worked great. It actually was a switch on a fuse.
Turn the fuse off and the device it protected shut off, even the odometer.
But before any were sold, WE found out it is ILLEGAL to sell anything that messes with the odometer. So the TWO OR THREE that were made were thrown away and none were ever sold."
His ad says, "I MAKE"...now he's saying a buddy made them.
His ad says, "I have an UNLIMITED SUPPLY of these."...now he's saying there were only two or three that were made, and they were "thrown away".
His "I" suddenly became "WE", and his "UNLIMITED SUPPLY" suddenly became "TWO OR THREE".
He also admits that "WE"(I) found out they were illegal to sell, and none were ever sold.
Interesting to note that his ad to sell them is still posted.
So if you need illegal devices and want Bob to have your money, contact him.
He, his friends, and his family may also have vehicles for sale with low mileage.
Also...
Bitching is not something new for Bob.
Here is a screenshot of a review he wrote of a Howard Johnson's where he and his wife (or some whore)stayed in 2005.
FREEMAN'S REVIEW
"Perhaps we should shoot him."
I'd rather place him in a cage, or behind glass on display for all to see what oddities of nature are possible due to genetic mutation, poor diet, and habitually sniffing your finger after pulling your underwear out of your crack.
i think its quite funny that bob now has an article on his site about How to Recognize if You Are in a Cult Group, wonder where he came up with that idea
It's not really hard to figure out how Bob comes up with screwy ideas since all of his ideas are screwy. Basically if it's something shady, illegal, a conspiracy that cannot be proved or other stupid non-sense that intelligent people will dismiss, Bob is all about it.
BOB IS KNOWN FOR habitually sniffing his finger after pulling his underwear out of his crack.
THIS IS IN LINE WITH HIS FASCINATION WITH ASSHOLES.
It's not hate dumb-ass, it's COMEDY!
I wonder how much meth is used by the members of this site.
"Looks like from my research there is a cult right here that is following Bob's every move."
Someone has to keep Bob in check. You obviously are not going to do it.
"Must be heavy carrying around all that hate!"
No hate here, mostly just ridicule, but there's plenty of hate on columbuzz if you're looking for some.
"I wonder how much meth is used by the members of this site."
Why, are you looking to buy some? That's also against the law, by the way, just like tampering with odometers.
Anonymous said...
I wonder how much meth is used by the members of this site.
December 4, 2010 1:56 PM
TRY NOT TO BLOW UP YOUR TRAILER DUMB-ASS
It's a statement and not a question. It needs no question mark.
Anonymous said...
It's a statement and not a question. It needs no question mark.
December 4, 2010 2:35 PM
WHATEVER YOU SAY BOB, RETARD!
"It's a statement and not a question. It needs no question mark."
You can always tell when Bob has no defense for his actions. He reverts to name calling or claiming his detractors are on drugs. I think that someone who believes that odometer tampering is OK is on drugs.
If BF is in bed with JV does that mean JJ can no longer BF JV or will that now fall to CH?
OK GANG, JUST SAW THIS ON COLUMBUZZZZZZZZZZ
Elder Nick Hill of Milestone Ministries called and threatened to sue us for reckless journalism if we didn't remove the article. He said he could prove every accusation was false.
We told him he could submit his side of it and we would post it but he said he wouldn't get into the church stuff.
I even offered to lock my front door so he would feel more comfortable talking and he didn't respond.
Posted here are opinions. Opinions posted with anonymity. Most of this article is taken from conversations on Facebook, so the information is out in public already.
A friend told me yesterday that they would sue. Sue away big boy, sue away.
In the meantime, we welcome stories about experiences with the church that we can post and let everyone know what goes on there or at least the impressions people have about what goes on there.
If you don't like reading the sort of stuff we post, why are you here?
Go away....
IF THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE BOB, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES. HOW MANY DUMB-ASSES ARE WRITING THIS CRAP ON THE COLUMBUS INQUIRER?
It'll just take one lawsuit against columbuzz and they will go under. Either that, or Bob, Jeremy, and Herman go bankrupt. It's a win either way.
I totally agree with Dude! Bob off of the internet is a win, Bob in jail is a win, Bob being broke is a win. There is a very good chance, I would guess over 98% of at least one or two of these coming true sooner than later.
Soon we can all sing...
Ding Dong The Bitch is Dead...which old Bitch, Bob the bitch!
Columbuzz quote above: If you don't like reading the sort of stuff we post, why are you here?
Go away....
I can't go away. I find it much like driving by a car accident. It is so disturbing, but I can not look away. I have to look just to see what happens next!!!!
I thought you didn't write the "Cult" article on Columbuzzz Bob? So did you or didn't you? Who is on her telling lies for you trying to absolve your lard ass from any responsibility? ANSWER ME FREEMAN! You cant!
Watching Bob on Columbuzz is better than 80% of what's on television. This would make a great sitcom.
Or a documentary about retards who overcome handicap to use the internet. Right Bob? ANSWER ME DUMB-ASS! You cant!
Ex-member on 05 December, 2010 08:52:41
I have all the goods on the Milestone church and how the run things so if they keep giving you troubles I have enough dirt to bury them in their own crap.
Check out the Miracle Garage door ad in the at&t and yellowbook. Look at the address of the business 910 S. MARR RD.
THIS IS JUST THE KIND OF HERESAY BOB THRIVES ON. IF YOU HAVE THE FACTS, POST THEM, OTHERWISE SHUT UP!
You can say what you want but my article got 1451 views in the few days it has been online and Milestone went from threats to an apology from Tim Miracle himself. I guarantee you anyone who know him would never of thought he could let go of his ego and get off his high horse long enough to do that. It looks like columbuzz got what I wanted and it isn't over yet. No one in Columbus even knows this site exist!!
Pastor Tim Miracle on 06 December, 2010 11:04:14
This is my one and only response. To everyone who feels that something wrong was done to them or against them: I apologize and ask for your forgiveness. It is my heart's desire that the fighting ceases and forgiveness takes place in all of us, so God will be honored and each ministry can make a worthy contribution to the community. I hope the best for everyone.
Oh and that wasn't from Bob it was from Gina :)
"You can say what you want but my article got 1451 views in the few days it has been online"
You do realize that does not equate to 1451 people, right? It could be one person (Bob) viewing it 1451 times.
"Milestone went from threats to an apology from Tim Miracle himself."
That's because Bob exaggerates the number of people that visit columbuzz, so Mr. Miracle was most likely misled about how many people actually visit the site. It is minuscule compared to the population of the county.
"No one in Columbus even knows this site exist!! "
Are you from Columbus? If so, then you are incorrect.
Columbuzz was able to coax an apology out of someone? Great work.
Reminds me of the time that this Blog coaxed Bob Freeman to remove his ILLEGAL "for sale" ad, for an ILLEGAL device, from the garage sale website.
Apologies are nice, but stopping an actual crime in progress is much more notable.
There are crimes going on at Milestone! I know for a fact people read the article because I get messages from people who are thanking me for posting it. I used a fake name but the people involved know who I really am. I also have seen lots of talk about the story on facebook. I guess all the comments left are by Bob too. Have you looked at the number of people columbus man facebook? Those people also read columbuzz. Gina
"There are crimes going on at Milestone! I know for a fact people read the article because I get messages from people who are thanking me for posting it."
Gina, that was a joke about Bob. I know some people have read the article, but who knows how many. And there may be crimes going on at Milestone. I don't know since I'm not involved with them. But you need to be careful teaming up with Bob Freeman and columbuzz because you risk your credibility. If you have evidence of crimes, contact the police, not Bob Freeman. He is not a law enforcement agent.
Gina....the further away from any association with Bob Freeman, Columbuzz, and Columbus Man you get, the better off you will be, and the greater the chance you will be heard by people, or authorities that can help you or your cause.
Your association with the Freeman Folley will only destroy your credibility and earn you laughs.
Contact the right people, not a bunch of complainers who bash everybody and anybody they can.
Just look at what Freeman wrote about the Trustee. Is this the type of person you think people will listen to?
This community thinks Bob is a joke and a loudmouthed whiner. Get away from him if you are serious about getting your issue looked at.
If Fred Barkes did fire Curt Handley he did make a huge mistake in mine and many others opinion. You won't get any support from me for Fred Barkes or his staff, they are rude and down right mean. It wouldn't surprise me if they don't go to Milestone. I got accomplished what I wanted on Columbuzz the truth came out for all to see in Columbus and the leaders of Milestone are running with there tails between there legs!!
Gina, I have read your posts with great interest and can understand your concerns. I know nothing about Milestone or the Miracles other than what I have read on Columbuzz.
Please take seriously what people here are telling you. NO ONE takes Bob Freeman seriously. Those who "say" that they do either have an insane agenda, similar to his or they bait him so they can laugh there heads off. We, here on Dude, tend to fall into the last category.
If you have genuine concerns, refer them to a law enforcement agency. Bob Freeman is NOT a police officer and he is NOT a reporter. Bob Freeman is a BIG MOUTH who thinks very highly of himself and the one-liner quips he posts on Columbuzz.
For that matter, there is NO ONE at Columbuzz that you can "go to" for help. They are all, equally delusional and are not taken seriously by anyone with an ounce of intelligence.
You can think of Columbuzz as something like the National Inquirer. Every now and then, usually by accident, they may stumble on to something that is both true and worthy of discussion but there mantra for name-calling, nonsense, lies and innuendo make them the laughing stock of Columbus.
All the best.
GINA AND EVERYONE, BOB FREEMAN IS A JOKE. EVEN IF THE STORIES ABOUT MILESTONE AND FRED BARKES ARE TRUE, BOB IS SUCH A JOKE PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IT. HE AND HIS CRONIES AT COLUMSCUM HAVE -0- CREDIBILITY. NONE. NADA.
"You won't get any support from me for Fred Barkes or his staff, they are rude and down right mean."
No one here is asking for your support for Fred Barkes. You say they are rude and down right mean. Is that just something you heard?
"It wouldn't surprise me if they don't go to Milestone."
As far as I know, they don't.
"I got accomplished what I wanted on Columbuzz the truth came out for all to see in Columbus and the leaders of Milestone are running with there tails between there legs!!"
Sounds like something Bob would say. The ends justify the means, I guess.
"I got accomplished what I wanted on Columbuzz the truth came out for all to see in Columbus and the leaders of Milestone are running with there tails between there legs!!"
NOT REALLY. IT MAY LOOK THAT WAY TO THE UNTRAINED EYE. THE PEOPLE WHO READ COLUMSCUM AND TAKE IT SERIOUSLY ARE DELUSIONAL MORONS MUCH LIKE THE WRITERS.
PEOPLE ARE POLITE AND PRETEND TO PAY ATTENTION TO COLUMSCUM TO MINIMIZE THE DAMAGE DONE TO THERE REPUTATION BY BOB AND KLAN.
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